How much small talk have you made so far today? From a polite chit-chat with the barista you see every morning, to passing the time of day with colleagues while you wait for the microwave to ping, our days are full of seemingly meaningless conversations.
Whether you enjoy small talk or find it a total waste of time, there's no denying that it plays a big part in our day-to-day lives. However, there's an increasing movement of people rejecting small talk, preferring to save their energy for more meaningful conversations.
"Small talk, by which I mean surface-level conversation such as talking about the weather, doesn't really fill my cup," says mindset and somatic coach Tori Lutz. "I really value depth, truth and authenticity, so when conversations feel surface level, performative or misaligned, I can feel frustrated because I'm lacking the connection I naturally crave."
Tori is realistic, adding: "I know you can't have that in every interaction, but as someone who gets drained by social interactions, it becomes more important to prioritise the interactions that give me energy and feel more meaningful."
She continues that she doesn't actively avoid small talk – it's more of a preference: "There's definitely a time and a place for small talk, especially when you're meeting someone for the first time, or you're in a more 'polite' setting such as work or family environments. But that being said, I wouldn't choose to stay in small talk. I have found the strongest and most meaningful relationships in my life, including business ones, have come from going beyond surface-level conversation fairly quickly."
Why do we need small talk?
As Tori says, small talk serves a purpose. While it might seem like meaningless conversation, in psychological terms it carries an enormous amount of information and serves a vital social function, says BACP-accredited psychotherapist Baljit Kamal.
"While the words themselves may seem trivial, small talk actually helps us to coordinate, align with others and create trust."
Fellow BACP-accredited counsellor, Georgina Sturmer agrees, noting: "Small talk offers a low-stakes way to build a rapport, and establish a sense of whether the other person feels safe or threatening."
Small talk does present us with this double-edged sword, though, muses Georgina. "It offers a 'way in' to communication, but it can leave us feeling isolated if we don't progress beyond platitudes about the weather," which could explain our move to reject it altogether…
The death of small talk
We spoke to mental health experts about why small talk is becoming an antiquated practice.
1. It's superficial
By its very nature, small talk is superficial, says Georgina. "It lacks depth and meaning and for some of us, this can feel uncomfortable, frustrating or even threatening. We might feel as if it indicates disinterest or an inability to communicate at depth."
2. It can be exhausting
Baljit notes that engaging in repetitive conversations may feel exhausting. "Since small talk often involves predictable topics, individuals who crave the opposite may find these exchanges tedious, superficial and under-stimulating. For example, deep thinkers often value authenticity and emotional depth. For these people, small talk may feel like a social obligation rather than a pathway to meaningful engagement."
3. We're too busy
BACP registered counsellor Rahi Popat says there's a more practical reason for our small talk rejection. "People simply do not have the time to offer themselves in small talk and would much prefer to get 'straight to the point.'
"Often, people find themselves rushed and in need of quick actions, and their tolerance to manage small talk becomes non-existent."
4. Less opportunities for small talk
It’s also possible that the rejection of small talk is linked to the reduction in opportunities for natural small talk to occur ponders Georgina Sturmer. "The increase in working remotely means that there are fewer opportunities for 'water cooler' moments. Plus. the advent of smartphones means that we always have an opportunity to bury ourselves in something else when we are waiting or bored. Those natural moments when we might have chatted to a stranger are now spent scrolling through our emails."
How to navigate conversations without small talk
If you find that small talk is tiring and exhausting, confidence coach Danielle Broadbent shares that there's a way to engage in small talk without it draining you.
"I don't believe in skipping small talk completely, I believe in using it as a doorway," she says. "The key is to listen carefully and expand on what's already being shared.
"Surface-level conversations can feel repetitive or even draining, whereas meaningful ones create a sense of being seen and understood. For example, if someone says they've been busy, instead of moving on, I might ask, "What's been keeping you busy lately? Has it been a good kind of busy or a stressful one?" That one shift moves the conversation from surface to substance.
"That's where real connection is built. When you realise you don't have to perform or stay on the surface, you relax into being yourself. It's not about being overly deep or intense; it's about showing genuine curiosity. When people feel that, they naturally open up."
She adds: "I don't think we need to eliminate small talk - we need to evolve it. The shift happens when you move from surface-level questions to more meaningful ones."
This is the approach Tori takes, too, explaining: "I don’t skip straight into deep conversation out of nowhere; it's more about how I listen. Even in light conversation, I’ll pick up on something specific and use that as a way to go a little deeper.
"For example, if someone mentions their job, instead of staying at surface level, I might ask how they got into it, what they enjoy about it, what they find challenging. I'm usually subconsciously listening for something I resonate with (a common interest or shared experience), that's where connection naturally deepens. It feels less forced and more organic.
"If it doesn’t go there, that's okay too!" Tori reassures. "Sometimes it's a mutual sense that the conversation has run its course and you move on."
How to move small talk along
Tori suggests asking:
· How did you get into that?
· What made you choose that path?
· How does that make you feel?
· What do you enjoy most about it?
"They’re simple, but they give people the opportunity to share something more meaningful if they want to."
Baljit sums it up, musing: "Social connections contribute towards our happiness. When we don't engage with others, we miss out on shared moments that make life more meaningful, strengthen relationships and weaken our sense of community.
"Without this, we lose opportunities to understand different perspectives, solve problems together and develop social skills. Together, these findings reveal that everyday small talk is not trivial. It is one of the most accessible and reliable ways to lift mood and maintain social ties."








